tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1450045308448548972.post8226722995700839820..comments2023-04-28T17:56:54.317+05:30Comments on Hate, Actually: Zabaan Sambhal KeSurbhihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08164279377538053633noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1450045308448548972.post-86134642559207665282009-04-07T02:07:00.000+05:302009-04-07T02:07:00.000+05:30Uthra:I'll make this short, because I have nothing...Uthra:<BR/>I'll make this short, because I have nothing much to say to you if you have decided to perpetually keep your head buried in the sand. I can only hope you emerge and at least read my post again, slowly. For good measure, listen to Varun Gandhi's speech again too.<BR/>To your last comment, I say this. To me, no or hollow ideology is far more welcome than one steeped in hate and soaked in fanaticism. Now that is downright unacceptable to me as a citizen of this nation - a socialist secular democratic republic.<BR/>I have nothing more to say to you.Surbhihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08164279377538053633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1450045308448548972.post-77735474498838557032009-04-02T18:22:00.000+05:302009-04-02T18:22:00.000+05:30great blog! i mean, this is exactly the kind of se...great blog! i mean, this is exactly the kind of secular media that helps every politician in the country get away with 'minority appeasement' and not be spoken against. Subsidies for Haj and Jerusalem are part of the secular ethos, I suppose, but not a visit to nankana sahib in Pakistan. And for all those who think Varun Gandhi is a moron, well, it seems that the urbane youth is so dazzled by the polish and suaveness of rahul gandhi that his basic hollownss and vacancy of an actual ideology to believe in seems immaterial. Style over substance, huh?uthranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1450045308448548972.post-54138509726947816482009-03-29T01:55:00.000+05:302009-03-29T01:55:00.000+05:30Yaamyn:Not only the minorities, no body at all sho...Yaamyn:<BR/>Not only the minorities, no body at all should have any reason to support BJP. Any organisation that cannot represent the nation as a whole and all its citizens alike has no business even contesting for elections. These elections are NATIONAL and GENERAL.Surbhihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08164279377538053633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1450045308448548972.post-8760896074313008272009-03-28T14:52:00.000+05:302009-03-28T14:52:00.000+05:30Hmm. Varun Gandhi's Quarter Parsi, Half-Sikh and F...Hmm. Varun Gandhi's Quarter Parsi, Half-Sikh and Full Hindu? <BR/><BR/>I don't get it. <BR/><BR/>Minorities supporting the BJP is like Chicken rooting for KFC.. simple as that.Yaamynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13486967702707441314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1450045308448548972.post-73758058381303264572009-03-24T11:33:00.000+05:302009-03-24T11:33:00.000+05:30Solilo:Varun "hated Modi but supported Vajpayee"? ...Solilo:<BR/>Varun "hated Modi but supported Vajpayee"? Reall? I find that kinda hard to believe after Pilibhit!<BR/>Sure, controversy is the shortest route to any place. I remember this interview with Madha Patkar where she said to Arnab Goswami that her kind of silent non-violent protest doesn't get noticed by the media, while the antics of thugs like Muthalik or wannabes like Rahul Mahajan are instantly lapped up and broadcasted far and wide. She said the amount of publicity you get is directly proportional to the amount of chaos you create. And that is what Varun learnt at the BJP's knee.<BR/>What's worse is not that he is unapologetic (which was anyway expected of him), but that nobody could make him withdraw his candidature, and he was easily let off with nothing more than just a reprimand (that too for formality).<BR/>Thanks for blogrolling me, sweetie! Love to Peanut!Surbhihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08164279377538053633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1450045308448548972.post-83726044145850467542009-03-24T11:15:00.000+05:302009-03-24T11:15:00.000+05:30Tarun:LOL... You hit the nail right on the head. H...Tarun:<BR/>LOL... You hit the nail right on the head. He surel has no brains - he proved that.Surbhihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08164279377538053633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1450045308448548972.post-49521347394782310252009-03-24T11:14:00.000+05:302009-03-24T11:14:00.000+05:30Rahul:He didn't say sorry - that's the audacity of...Rahul:<BR/>He didn't say sorry - that's the audacity of this unruly brat.<BR/>BTW, you have a great blog going with lots of hullabaloo. I've blogrolled you!<BR/>Keep dropping in!Surbhihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08164279377538053633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1450045308448548972.post-60889074072792069012009-03-24T02:57:00.000+05:302009-03-24T02:57:00.000+05:30Surbhi, Have I posted on this blog before? I don't...Surbhi, Have I posted on this blog before? I don't remember this blog of yours. I don't know how I missed it. I always check the other one. <BR/><BR/>As for Varun Gandhi for years he was sidelines because he was too polished. I was watching one of his earlier interviews where he vehemently hated Modi but supported Vajpayee and now this Varun is going Modi way and now finally found acceptance with his hate speech. The latest is that he is BJP's star campaigner. <BR/><BR/>Controversy is an easy ticket to politics.<BR/><BR/>Let me add this to my blogroll so that I don't miss your posts here in future.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1450045308448548972.post-3912831569221664562009-03-23T20:03:00.000+05:302009-03-23T20:03:00.000+05:30haha!! I m not gonna die that early, death by choi...haha!! I m not gonna die that early, death by choice is my motto :D<BR/>Point number two, he is having no brains, you slap him twice and he will wet his pants :)Tarun Goelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01059376914654307610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1450045308448548972.post-9200805609967464752009-03-23T17:00:00.000+05:302009-03-23T17:00:00.000+05:30Well he has taken the shortcut to come into the li...Well he has taken the shortcut to come into the limelight of politics, and now he will just say 'No Comments' or a hushed sorry somewhere and releive himself of all his crimes.Toon Indianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07675962505129911588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1450045308448548972.post-62433604530488392872009-03-23T15:47:00.000+05:302009-03-23T15:47:00.000+05:30Chirag:I don't think Varun is so naive as to crave...Chirag:<BR/>I don't think Varun is so naive as to crave for publicity in this manner. Okay, maybe he doesn't like being second-best to his cousins Rahul and Priyanka in terms of media air-time, but he is smart and evil - a terrible combination - and knows exactly what he can get away with and how he can win an election (going by our history of how divide-and-rule has always worked).Surbhihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08164279377538053633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1450045308448548972.post-11176920489293874562009-03-23T15:17:00.000+05:302009-03-23T15:17:00.000+05:30Varun Gandhi is a moron and most of what he did pr...Varun Gandhi is a moron and most of what he did probably was because of cheap publicity but in either case, he should be given any press. Can't believe his grandmother was Indra gandhiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1450045308448548972.post-75261167652928761292009-03-23T13:28:00.000+05:302009-03-23T13:28:00.000+05:30Tarun:"... anonymously he is trying to advocate fo...Tarun:<BR/>"... anonymously he is trying to advocate for Hindus" Yeah, LOL... As if Hindus (or anyone for that matter) need GK as an advocate. ROTFLMAO...Surbhihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08164279377538053633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1450045308448548972.post-14254585005791851922009-03-23T13:26:00.000+05:302009-03-23T13:26:00.000+05:30Indyeah:So much the good for us, so much the worse...Indyeah:<BR/>So much the good for us, so much the worse for GK. He/She will have to deal with a multitude of replies now, all of which I sincerely hope will make him/her think. :)Surbhihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08164279377538053633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1450045308448548972.post-28858585318026136052009-03-23T13:25:00.000+05:302009-03-23T13:25:00.000+05:30Rakesh:"... PR Consultants who tell them what the ...Rakesh:<BR/>"... PR Consultants who tell them what the people want to hear ..." No, Varun doesn't need a PR consultant. He knew exactly what he was saying and he thought that was exactly what people wanted to hear. If you look at the kind of people who attended that rally, I bet you they were the type who'd received a day's supply of wheat/toddy from Varun's henchmen to come and attend. If you watch closely, there was a party-member right in front of the people who was actually guiding them when to clap and when to shout slogans. I bet the audience neither knew nor cared who was speaking and what. Maybe they were told that if they voted for Varun they'd be rewarded in some manner, etc.<BR/>"I guess, the BJP is happy but won't show it." Yes, you are so right. the BJP is jumping with jo coz this was exactly what they wanted. Now people in places other than Pilibhit know about Varun, plus they have supporters in the aam janta too. What's more, now they get to decide whether Varun should still contest his election. That's a total win-win situation!Surbhihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08164279377538053633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1450045308448548972.post-4803619039897484742009-03-23T13:14:00.000+05:302009-03-23T13:14:00.000+05:30GK:"I am not sure you reacted similarly when Hindu...GK:<BR/>"I am not sure you reacted similarly when Hindu educational institutions were discriminated"<BR/>Right! That's just the kind of attitude that makes me, with all due respect, scream! So if something happened in the past with a Hindu institution, it justifies what Varun did, eh? Great!<BR/>I'm also upset by the way you wrote "so-called minority". What exactly do you mean by "so-called"? Please don't tell me you're the type who frantically try to keep fictitious tabs on how man children each woman in a "minority" community produces, and then lament that they produce 10 while Hindus produce 1! That is as ridiculous as ridiculous can be.<BR/>Yes, we do have an "ultra secular government", and thank your lucky stars for it. If your favorite party BJP (assuming by the manner in which you wrote your comment) comes to party, we'll have communal riots all over India and there'll be a mass ethnic cleansing of your "so-called" minorities. Mark my words! I may have exaggerated but this surely must be the BJP's agenda, going by Varun Gandhi's landmark speech.<BR/>I am ashamed at you for thinking that Hindus can only survive with the assistance of a Hindu government, and can't find their place in a secular nation. That actually defeats the whole point of Hinduism, which is an extremely inclusive religion. Tell me, GK, after this thought, what is the difference between you and the Islamic fanatics who feel Islam can only survive in an Islamic nation and not in a secular inclusive society?<BR/>I do hope you'll think about this. Also read IHM's reply to you on her blog.<BR/>For the future, kindly quit copy-pasting the same comment everywhere. Since all our posts are different, the comments if copied word-for-word do not serve much purpose and instead would show your desperation for getting your point (if any) across.Surbhihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08164279377538053633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1450045308448548972.post-75425828222300573572009-03-23T13:04:00.000+05:302009-03-23T13:04:00.000+05:30Prerna:Welcome! First time here, I guess. I hope t...Prerna:<BR/>Welcome! First time here, I guess. I hope to see you more often. :)<BR/>You said, "The worst part is that he is literate, writes sensitive poems and is a part of the gen-next of Indian politics." Yes. That killed the hope we had from this young educated politician, that he would bring fresh ideas to the table and even that he could bring about a revolution in the religion-obsessed BJP.<BR/>The few Muslims who are part of BJP have shown their displeasure all right, but their voices were muffled and weak. That is the more unfortunate part. You know, Venkaiah Naidu actually said Varun is "immature" and should be let off! So if he is "immature" at 29, how is he standing at a dais addressing a rally in the first place?Surbhihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08164279377538053633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1450045308448548972.post-85778670005875436392009-03-23T12:59:00.000+05:302009-03-23T12:59:00.000+05:30Indyeah:"I really hope he is chucked out and the E...Indyeah:<BR/>"I really hope he is chucked out and the EC takes strict action against him" You really think that'll happen? The EC has now put the ball in BJP's court! So actually Varun gets to decide for himself whether he should or should not contest!<BR/>"all the morons who follow him in the name of Hindutva" Yeah, and all those who think Hindutva is not religious terrorism. It is. Anything that teaches hatred and begets ethnic violence is terrorism.<BR/>He'll contest, and win, and thumb his victory under all our noses. :(Surbhihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08164279377538053633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1450045308448548972.post-40738296955341259112009-03-23T12:53:00.000+05:302009-03-23T12:53:00.000+05:30Tarun:"... if he wins then i will commit suicide" ...Tarun:<BR/>"... if he wins then i will commit suicide" Right, and how would that help ANYONE? Don't be stupid and don't talk like that. There are many who deserve to commit suicide. You must help them achieve that. ;)<BR/>"He is just a "second year" senior who has all of a sudden realized his power" LOL... But he is so much more sinister coz he is not just looking for his 15 minutes of fame but is actually working for an evil ideology in a vile manner to seemingly gullible people. We can only hope the janta there has enough sense not to vote for him after this.Surbhihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08164279377538053633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1450045308448548972.post-74582718548477508102009-03-23T11:34:00.000+05:302009-03-23T11:34:00.000+05:30Nitwit:You are right; it was a very well-thought o...Nitwit:<BR/>You are right; it was a very well-thought out speech with a very well-planned strategy. You are also right in saying that we think the only solution for hatred/violence is more hatred/violence. It beomes a vicious cycle and never reaches an end.<BR/>"What's funny is that a person who is 1/4 parsi and 1/2 sikh is now the self-declared flag bearer of the hindutva movement. That must be flattering for all Hindus." Yes, it sure is flattering. (The sarcasm was sharp and I hope it hits him where it hurts most).<BR/>True. I don't know if the readers we intend to target actually read all that we write! And if they do, whether it affects them or even makes them think!<BR/>All we can do is write as much as we can, so that we reach out to as many people as possible. Raising a voice is the least we can do.Surbhihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08164279377538053633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1450045308448548972.post-17121608113750800022009-03-23T00:20:00.000+05:302009-03-23T00:20:00.000+05:30Gk here, has apparently nothing better to do than ...Gk here, has apparently nothing better to do than copy paste the same comment in a dozen places.Indyeahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05915739361027887530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1450045308448548972.post-89828981448941886902009-03-22T18:53:00.000+05:302009-03-22T18:53:00.000+05:30Seriously, I mean why can't political parties empl...Seriously, I mean why can't political parties employ PR Consultants who tell them what the people want to hear, how to say the right things.<BR/><BR/>But then, I think, this is so much better - you see the person for what he or she is. I guess, the BJP is happy but won't show it.<BR/><BR/>Hope he is barred from contesting elections.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1450045308448548972.post-88341785887452212352009-03-22T11:26:00.000+05:302009-03-22T11:26:00.000+05:30See anonymously he is trying to advocate for Hindu...See anonymously he is trying to advocate for Hindu's. Hindu's are never tht coward I guess e.g: Mahatma Gandhi, Bhagat Singh, LK Advani, Varun Gandhi :D, so your point(s) shud not be considered I guess :D :)Tarun Goelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01059376914654307610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1450045308448548972.post-21953733158589828392009-03-22T02:02:00.000+05:302009-03-22T02:02:00.000+05:30Good to see your outrage. Although I am not sure y...Good to see your outrage. Although I am not sure you reacted similarly when Hindu educational institutions were discriminated. In India, only Hindu run educational institutions have to follow government mandated caste-based reservations. Not the so-called minority ones. Thanks to the ultra secular government we have at the center. <BR/><BR/>In Kerala, Christian educational insitutions are actually a majority and they can still enjoy special privileges. Andhra Pradesh is the only place in the world where Christians get Haj-like subsidy to go to Jerusalem. And we all know there is no Haj among Christians. When Tasleema Nasreen was attacked, cases were filed against her while the attackers went untouched. If what happened to The Statesman recently happened in the west, the seculars would not have been silent. Our seculars went into hiding.<BR/><BR/>-GKAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1450045308448548972.post-1895661109070717322009-03-21T17:52:00.000+05:302009-03-21T17:52:00.000+05:30I guess the whole purpose of this was to hog limel...I guess the whole purpose of this was to hog limelight which he succeeded in doing. As an Indian and a Hindu, I was ashamed. The worst part is that he is literate, writes sensitive poems and is a part of the gen-next of Indian politics.After spitting this venom he is a prized possession of the extremist organizations. Shiv Sena has already welcomed his words. I feel bad for the few muslims who are a part of BJP.I wonder how they will explain it to their voters because Varun is still the official candidate of the BJP in Pilibhit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com